I’ve been checking on her and she seems to be ok. She has a very heavy coat and takes shelter under one of their stands. Even if they share a fence line she will stand there and head butt the fence! Most mountain goats roam the vast open spaces of Alaska and Canada, where they tend to have very little contact with humans. I think if you are making generalizations about fighting you need to distinguish goat types. The animals normally become aggressive only when they feel trapped, so in a confrontation with one of them, your best tactic is to flee. I’m trying to get them used to each other and she didn’t treat my other Nigerian Dwarf like this. One is being an extreme bully. Recently the mother has been picking at all the other critters on the farm including the other goats. You didn’t mention how they responded when you introduced them. Also, if it’s extremely hot where you are, you might bring her into the house, if that’s possible, so she isn’t also dealing with the heat. If you separate them, they will just start over again when you put them back together. Normally you don’t want to keep bucks and doe together all of the time because the does could wind up getting pregnant more often than you want. It’s too bad the seller didn’t ask if you had any horned goats. We just brought home a 2 month old pygmy. How long do you think this will last? This will keep them from getting too pushy when reintroducing the girls with their kids. On the bright side we thought we were going to lose a baby goat to some internal injuries when a dog was playing too rough. The ram has also tried to ram me and my kids ( not as bad as the goat). But I am not sure if I should get a doe this time or if I should just stick with another wethered male. The size difference could be a problem. We didn’t have any issues until the baby goat reached a year or so. I just got another doe who is around the same age and I have introduced them to each other. The breeder told me that it was ok to keep them in the same pen. I loved milking the one Doe that had kids but if breeding season is like this then I will be done having goats . A goat could wind up with a broken neck if they stick their head under it and another one slams into their body. Yes, goats can get concussions. Luckily it’s over when they are not in heat any longer, so it only lasts a day or two. At night I have them seperated so they don’t hurt the mini. The mix is very sweet and never fights back. They are not equally matched. Always be ready to fight one off at the sight of one. There is a pecking order with them but they get along. They will not allow him in the coop if they are in there. My female beats up my male Then hits him a second time when he faints. Sometimes that happens when does are in heat. I talked to the rescue where I adopted all three and asked if there was a chance he had an undecended testicle. If these males are bucks rather than wethers (castrated) and some of the other goats are does, that is a much bigger problem, and you need to figure out how to keep them separated. Kids bounce pretty well if they’re just hit in the middle of nowhere, especially after they’re a few days old. You don’t want them locked up in a barn all day long, every day because they need fresh air. Plus if there are kids in the pen, he could get a doeling pregnant when she is still too small to give birth safely. Mountain goat attacks are rare, and unprovoked fatal gores are virtually unheard of. Thank you! Without knowing your set-up, it’s difficult to give specific suggestions. They are all Nigerian dwarfs. If he is pushing him against a fence like woven wire or welded wire, he should be fine because the fence is flexible, so he won’t get squashed. The babies have grown very well and have horns just like their mom and dad. I have a few goats and one of my females has become quite aggressive and really was slamming anotherpregnant goat in the abdomen and now I am worried. How long do I give them to adjust to a new home? And the set up in half inside a barn and half outside. If the rocks don’t scare off the animal, you’re in serious trouble. If you think the one is still not healthy, you can separate them again for a few more days, but eventually you will have to put them back together, and they will go through this to establish who is in charge. They are not hormonal because they’ve been castrated. Now the 2 does will not stop fighting when we put them together. Here is more on goats in winter — Explainer thanks Steeve D. Côté of Université Laval and Joel Berger of the University of Montana. If you read the other comments, you’ll see that this is quite common. Don’t get a kid. Try to get out of the pen as quickly as possible. By joining Slate Plus you support our work and get exclusive content. A lot of goats wind up getting dehydrated if they are too weak to walk to the water bucket. It’s weird that the new boys and the ones being bossy — unless they have some sort of advantage, such as being bigger or having horns. Do you have any experience with a doe acting bucky? 06.23.2014 by thriftyhomesteader // 214 Comments. We had all of our goats together for years before we built kidding pens, which were mostly for human convenience. He keeps looking for a place to jump over fence .it is 5 ft he will not stop.I have added more fence making it taller . Are their tummies stronger than I think? I usually wait until the kids are at least a few days old before putting them with other moms and babies. We adopted 5 pygmy goats and one dwarf. They can’t get up much momentum when trying to butt something below themselves. What would take hours to do for a human, a couple of goats get it done in a jiffy Efficient isn’t it? You might find they are spending too much time inside. It’s anyone’s guess about whether or not they will hurt each other. In that case he could do some real damage. What can I do? That sounds horrible. I have two does they are a year old, they came from a set of triplets. What should we do? And most boers have horns, which makes it even more dangerous. Goat’s immunity can lower with their age, and various health problems often creep in and that affect the goat’s good te… It’s starting to get cold so I took him in there myself and they still ran him out. My question is, how long does the bullying last, and could they kill this mini goat if I’m not watching? Can two goats butt heads playfully when one has horns and the other does not??? At the moment if one of the kids sticks it’s nose into the other pen the doe will head butt the wall as if to scare it off. Hello. Me and my girlfriend went for a walk and came across a field of goats, she had just spent the past 20 minutes trying to convince me they can kill people and will attack us if we went in the field. Any ideas? You didn’t say whether this kid was being dam raised, but it would very weird if another doe was keeping her away from her mother. In most cases one of the goats will give up and refuse to continue fighting, but I did have a buck wind up with a concussion once. We got 2 does at 8 months old back in March. The wether and the baby are great together but I don’t want to leave mom completely alone. I am new to goats so this is turning me off owning then if this is the norm . If the kid a bottle baby that you brought in from elsewhere, then yes, this is “normal,” and it’s not a good idea to have her with a herd of adults at this age. Mucus before kidding can be anywhere between zero and a foot-long, thick string. She picks at the mini-pony, and even my 2 huge dogs. The wethers that were castrated as adults will literally run her until she is panting and can’t run anymore. I coudln’t begin to guess why he was acting like that. Required fields are marked *. I have a rescue doe that came to me pregnant, I had her with a wether we got at the same time but it’s just them two and my mini horse here. You would want to get one that was equally matched — same size, same horn status, and roughly same age. They live in the same pen together. Thanks for any advice. The horned ones will realize they have an advantage and tend to be bullies. I hope the commenter consulted a vet or other experienced person about his bleeding doe and figured out what was going on. We are afraid she is going to hurt him, will she hurt him? If she is disoriented, it could be challenging for her to get milk right now. So we still have one to go sometime in March. The female goat is very aggressive and butting the baby in the side. It is also important to be sure that you have plenty of space for all the goats to fit in front of hay feeders and feed pans. We have the mommy and baby separated and only allow them with the pregnant female and buck under a watchful eye for short peeiods. They are all dwarfs but the dominant one is definitely bigger than our other male. I have heard of rams fighting until one died, but I have not heard of goats doing that. I am very sad to hear that someone sold you a buck and a doe. Thank you, its the story you told above, will put them back and close my eyes for a while and hope for the best. Your buck sounds like he should be in the freezer. I’ve also noticed where he was disbudded it’s growing back, just on the one side! https://thriftyhomesteader.com/goat-birthing-beginners-guide/. If you mean that the dominant doe won’t let the other one near the hay feeder, that makes total sense, but don’t worry about it because once the dominant one has her fill, she’ll go lay down to chew her cud, and then the other one can eat. Plus, if you were planning to add them back to the full herd later, they will just have to go through all of this again. Can Maybe update you for learning purposes. My Olberhasi died in November 2018 from urinary calculi. In most cases goats will butt heads for a few minutes when first introduced, and once in a while they’ll hit each other with their heads if they want hay or grain that the other one is eating. She is definitely the herd queen. The main reason they butt kids is about pecking order and hormones so if there has been any loss such as the matriarch there will be a lot of vying for it . Throwing rocks at mountain goats technically contravenes National Park Service rules against harassing wildlife, but expulsion from the park beats being gored. As I mentioned in this article, sometimes those that are the sweetest with humans are often the roughest with other goats, so it has nothing to do with the goats being innately good or bad. She even tries to butt them through the panels separating the stalls. She is very food aggressive as she was neglected before. It seems to escalate with me in the pen. If your does are at least 2/3 of their adult weight, they can be bred now, but do you want kids in 5 months? Is my first doe being “protective” of me or is she just trying to show dominance? She should be with other kids her age. There is no way of knowing how they’ll interact in the future. Now that he’s gone, the three Nigerians are constantly trying to figure out who’s boss. Some does are more quiet and docile than others when in heat, but some months can be worse than others. It has nothing to do with age, and there is no way to avoid it. When does are in heat, they will act completely different. I’d this normal or is she being aggressive? I would not want goats like this to be together. They are all about 9 months old. It makes me angry that he is being mean to him. They both were pregnant and mother became aggressive to the daughter. It’s unlikely that the bigger goat will hurt the baby. They are all pets and it’s hard for me. If they are really thin, you can use hoof trimmers to round them off so that they aren’t pointy. One single Nigerian wether and an Olberhasi. Coming from the ninth layer of hell, Chupacabras have developed a strong hate for mankind and have made it one of their goals to eliminate the human race. But it is also important that you NOT pet her on top of her head or push on top of her head or anything like that, which would encourage her to butt you. Hi there! I separated them. If it’s windy, it can be worse even before it gets that cold. They all seem to be ganging up on her. Part 1: 21 Things You Should Know About Dairy Goats Before You Start a Goat Farm. I think he said that all three of his goats were horned, not just the buck. In 2010, a man was gored to death by a 370-pound, aggressive goat. The smaller goat has also started to challenge me a little..the vet told me to keep them separated for as little time as possible but I wonder if I put them together too soon while he was still weak. For NDs that means they should be at least 40 pounds, or you could be looking at a c-section in five months. The only case I kind find of a human being killed by a mountain goat happened in Olympic National Park in 2010. I am At what age can I put my doelings out with them given winter is coming soon? I have two Nigerian dwarf bucks (about 1 yr old) and recently added 2 Nigerian/Nubian does (also about 1 yr old). HaTsUnE_NeKo. How Patients Die After Contracting COVID-19, The New Coronavirus Disease : Goats and Soda Most cases of the illness are characterized as mild, with … The two new goats are okay with the doe and will let her in the coop but if our other male comes near it they head butt him away. I took in a 2 week old goat thats mother died. I kept them all together to breed until one of the bucks lost a foot in a fence accident. There is a picture of a goat skull in my book, Raising Goats Naturally, which shows you that the horns are part of the skull. In this case, absolutely, because the one goat is being bullied so badly. Responsibility to not keep bucks in the general herd population.. too many safety issues. A big goat with horns can do a lot of damage to smaller goats. thanks! Will this get better when the second gives birth? I just added a 5 year old pregnant doe to my herd of a Nursing doe, buck and 2 2.5 month old babies (buckling and doeling). I am a new goat mom! Ive been out there watching and making sure they don’t kill it. But I did have a goat continue fighting one time unless he had a concussion and was staggering around with his eyes going in different directions. is helping. The 2 goats I’m most concerned about are males and shouldn’t even be eating grain, plus I feel like even if I got 2 feeders they would still eat all the babies grain. Typically they do that because someone thought it was cute to “butt heads” with them when they were little, so they think it’s an acceptable way to communicate with people. Is there any prevention that i can take for the goat to hit us with her head when she gets big. Won’t let him eat anything! Hi, At what age should you separate a young buckling from the rest of the herd? She is almost acting like she is concussed or has brain damage. If the girls are out of sight, they shouldn’t butt heads too much beyond the first day or two. What should I do? I intervene so she can get a break when I’m in the pen with them. Got a question about today’s news? Goats were also the first species humans domesticated, about 10,000 years ago, giving them a head start. We have since gotten the Lamacha male a new home and are waiting anxiously for Pepper to give birth. I had owned goats for eight years when one night I saw two bucks butting heads at sundown. But every year or two, there seems to be a doe that simply no one likes. I have 2 does that are the same age. Three of the goats were weather’s, one pygmy was the dominant one. We close the door to keep them outside in winter as long as it’s not too cold. If he starts to lose weight, you may have to figure out how to feed him separately. If the two adults have been separated, however, they might butt heads a little when you put them back together. Actually got them to keep poison ivy down. I just don’t want his horns to break off. The older one is 5 and aggressive toward the younger 2 year old. I will keep them separate for a couple weeks at least. We have two does purchased and brought home at the same time with our dwarf donkey. And everyone ignores the kids … usually … unless one tries to nurse on a doe that is not its mama! When individuals are grouped together, they display, charge, and engage in mini-duels four or five times per hour. I’m feeding it 15-20% if it’s body weight over 5 feedings a day and it’s almost always crying for more food an hour after I fed it. I am afraid she is going to get hurt. They might still try to nurse off another doe, but they can handle a quick butt easier, and they learn quickly by then because they’ve already been nursing off their own mom for awhile. Is this normal? I had two does. Plenty of space. Dad goat was bottle fed and is very sweet in temperament and I think a little lonely being on the other side of the fence. Will he be ok. I am concerned about the baby being too big for Pepper to have. All rights reserved. They are usually loose and may even get knocked off during head butting. It really depends on how cold it gets in your area and if she can get out of the wind. This can be tough, depending on the situation on your farm. What can I do to get her to stop and get her used to the kid? One with horns one without. She also still looks pregnant because she eats constantly and chases the others away from food even though we have multiple hay sources and pans for the grain feed. Any suggestions on how to calm him down. Two days later the other doe had a premature birth and the baby died. I want to help her but I found her twice this evening laying in tall grass , unresponsive. TIA. Either he has tried to nurse recently, or she “thinks” he may want to, so she’s just letting him know that he is no longer her baby. Lots of people keep horned goats without problems, and dehorning or disbudding has its cons too, after all. If the wether doesn’t have horns, the odds are not good that the horned goat will stop. It is late to build another shed, the one we have is large enough to fit in 10 goats… What can we/should we do? If she has horns, then yes, they should absolutely be separated. Each doe had twins 4 days apart and I’m not sure when I should put everyone back together. The kids horns looked chipped/cracked. It sounds like you’re concerned that the goat will not be as friendly with humans if the doe continues to be mean to him. We won't send you spam. The behavior lasted about 3 – 4 days, things were normal for a couple days but now started over. It could be that the does are in heat or were in heat but are not any longer, so he’s frustrated. We had several 2 year old pygmy wethers and lost one recently. He is such a sweet boy and I do not want that ruined. I am worried about his well being. I can’t figure out why she has started doing this and I don’t know what to do about it. Just wanted to add my two cents. It could be confusing about whose kids are whose if they both kid overnight or when you’re not there. It won’t eliminate all of the head butting, but it will reduce it a bit. If you doe had tissue hanging out, it sounds the buck tore something with his horns. How do I attack neutral people or animals? How do i go about making sure they are warm enough and also when they should be out. Add to this the fact that there is no telling how many may be lurking unseen for every rat that you do see. Should I be worried? Can they change? You need to get him a buddy FAST before he learns bad habits that he will teach to his new friend. I need help I have a male and female but the male keeps on head butting the female how do I make him stop. Any advice would be appreciated. I have one ND weather that has decided to start ramming into one of my smaller goats, and when we are harnessing the alpacas to take them out, he rams them in the legs also. I have 2 females, I bought them both at the same time from same breeder. Do you think we should introduce a 3rd goat or just keep these 2 separated for a few more months. I have a 4 month old doe and buck. I have a year old billy and 2 does ( Sannon ) , one had twins months ago but the other doe did not , I got her separated before she got bread . Usually you hear about this when a doe rejects kids after disbudding, but I really don’t think it helps. There WILL be head butting, but assuming they are equally matched (similar size and horn status), it is highly unlikely that she will actually hurt him. Can we house them together while they are small? Should we have another coop so the other goats have a place over cover? I have two young wethers about 2months and four months old. In reality, they are actual… A reputable breeder would NOT have sold you an intact buck and a doe and told you to keep them together. She’s being dominant over the other doe and possessive of you. Crosses between NDs and LMs are usually about 7 pounds. Hi, we have 2 male goats they are 4 months old. The door needs to be within an inch or two of the ground so that they can’t stick their head under it. Unless he is losing weight, he is still getting enough to eat, and that’s all that’s really important. My black older one got aggressive and making noises. We are feeding them well and want them to naturally mate. Today I came out and the female doeling was severely hurt. This is one reason I do not recommend having horned goats. No goat should ever have unlimited grain. Will my older does hurt her once contained in the barn? If you separate them, they will just start over again when you put them back together, so that will just make for lots more head butting overall. There is usually less head butting when you do that for a few days, but it doesn’t eliminate it entirely. (I never say never, because very little is impossible.). I would ask the vet what you can do for them. The fact that one has horns creates an uneven playing field, so that usually makes it harder. Bring treats with you whenever you see this goat, and it'll learn that you're a good person who has food. Slate is published by The Slate Group, a Graham Holdings Company. He follows her around, bites at her ears and neck, butts her in the side, chases her, mounts her and is overall being a bully. By the time they go inside, they should be mellowed out. However, some goats are bullies. Hi Christine I think the goats at the zoo are very comfortable around humans. what can i do to minimise head injuried? The pen is large, I see no conflict, except at the feeder, the new wether won’t let the the other one feed there when he is there, is all. The other one clearly knows his place at the bottom. Do not “play” butting heads with her when she is small because she will continue to do that as she grows up. He’s been in the pen for about a week, and has started to butt the does in the sides. https://thriftyhomesteader.teachable.com/p/goat-breeding. I have 2 weather goats. My weekly newsletter includes recipes and articles on homesteading, raising livestock, health, and gardening. Last January I was asked to take 2 bottle bucklings that we raised and wethered, not wanting to have any breedings once they were put with the girls. Can it be permanent? He’s just a bit “pushy”!! They were apart about 2 months. Sounds like he is getting scurs, which is not uncommon for a goat that was disbudded, especially males. I waited until they were That Unforgettable Billy Goat Smell. Researchers occasionally resort to horn-grabbing when a goat unexpectedly arouses from anesthesia or was never fully under in the first place. You should never have horned goats with goats that do not have horns as the horned goats know they have the advantage and can get really mean. Do they grow stronger as they get older or repair themselves? What can I do for him? The other female, however, os much larger, has horns and is very aggressive. Sometimes does get very aggressive when they’re in heat. The wether is with my mini horse. Thanks. We have a wether Pygmy age 5 with horns. Thankfully, goats are much smarter than sheep in this area, as I have not heard of goats killing each other. one boy and one girl. If they keep fighting, that’s when one really gets hurt. What can I do? He could also get a doeling pregnant when she is way too small, and she would need a c-section. We are in a pinch as we are to pick up the females today but only have housing set up for them to be together. No horns on the guy, thank goodness!! Typically, however, the adults are so busy head butting they just ignore the kids. We had 3 goats, a lamancha, Nubian, and a Nigerian mini. Kids don’t need more than a handful of grain, which you can feed them personally. https://thriftyhomesteader.com/goats-in-winter/. If you have to deal with a goat like this a lot, you can try to train it out of charging people through positive and negative reinforcement. Since then, the two does pick on him a lot and there’s not much he can do about it with 3 legs. I don’t know if it will always be the same with one controlling the other as the dominant male or if they could just get along. They are all disbudded. When I tried to bring my wether back in with her, mom wants nothing to do with him. Now check your email to confirm your subscription. The first mom charged (head down and used her horns) the second moms baby from across the pen from 20′ away. I understand pecking order I also raise chickens. also do the nigerian goats know when to go inside their house when they are cold from the wind? I just brought home a 8week old buck for them. Hi, I have 2 2 year old wethered males, 1 was disbudded and the other still has horns. Help. I hope you were able to enjoy the visit Slate relies on advertising to support our journalism. I ignored it because no one had ever been hurt in the past. I keep putting lots of hay all over but she keeps chasing the new goat and won’t leave her alone. and a she was butting heads with another doe that had no horns and the next day the no horned goat is stumbling around and can’t see. I understand if he’s at the bottom of the totem pole but it’s like he’s not even part of the herd. When I pen breed, I only see about one out of three does get bred. She was bloody in the rear again , for some reason it’s just the same Doe and she is frantic to get away from him . If he is the only goat, that’s why he is trying to jump the fence. They were raised together and never apart. I got 3 Boer goats that were born late December 2019. 2. Goats and sheep really should not be alone because they are herd animals. We just added two females that are 2 months old. That’s perfectly normal for goats. It sounds like you have a standard sized goat with horns with a couple of smaller goats, such as Nigerian or pygmy, that do not have horns. I have 4 ND wethers that are 6 months old, all brothers, as well as 2 doeling bottle babies that are 5 weeks old. Goats are herd animals and need a friend. Join Slate Plus to continue reading, and you’ll get unlimited access to all our work—and support Slate’s independent journalism. He always rams him when he tries to eat anything or if he is getting attention he gets rammed. I’d start to worry about her being outside when temps get into single digits. Should I keep him separate from them? But I also had a goat that was being butted so much that I was worried she’d lose her pregnancy, and she carried both kids to full term. You really can’t stop him from doing that. Females are typically more aggressive than males. I try to feed them separately so the new buck can get plenty of feed, but I’m worried as to where he doesn’t fight back if he will be picked on forever. They can survive for a long time. If she was due to kid now, she would have a large udder so that she could feed her kids when they’re born. It’s unlikely that the dynamics will change with her there. Success! You can’t make him stop. I now have another kid just under a week old tho she is quite big. They are all from different mothers but the two pure breds bully the mix and headbutt her constantly. Most people separate between two and three months of age. The billy now is chasing her relentlessly and she has a messy rear end . I just wanted to add that this owner should be careful of this in hot weather. Thank you! Finally, if goats start exhibiting overly curious or aggressive behavior, Stay Together – Goats can easily mistake a lot of people close together or with their coats held open as a much larger animal that they do not want to face.Don’t separate — goats are much more likely to attack a single person than a group. They all will have horns. It’s out of character for him. You pay the same price when you purchase through affiliate links as you would if you went directly to Amazon, and our site earns a small commission, so by shopping through our links, you are helping to support our blog so that we can continue to provide you with free content. Since they were my only two goats they lived together 24/7. I have never seen or heard of doing this before. On flat ground, they usually won’t let people get within 500 yards. Whats the problem? Flight distance is defined as the space between themselves and others the sheep will tolerate before moving. There is not anything you can do about it. Your question should have been posted directly under the comment where someone mentioned using Vicks, if you wanted them to respond. She is not adorable to them. That sounds very scary. They have the voice of going in and out if they want. They each had 2 babies in the same area & lived like that until we took our 3. If you keep taking them apart and reintroducing them, you will see the same thing play out every time you reintroduce them. I wouldn’t worry about anything down to at least 10 below Celsius as long as they have a place to get out of the wind — and it ‘s not snowing. I have a 2 year old pygmy goat, I would like to get another one, how would I introduce another goat to him? If a child is traumatized by a goat before age five, he/she is five times more likely to become some form of social deviant. The bully kidded January 8 and the smallest doe kidded January 22. The Lamancha was a young buck that got our Nigerian pregnant, but didn’t seem tall enough to get the Nubian pregnant. It is normal for moms to be protective of their babies. I was also wondering about how much food I can give it. Hope I am having the exception . It is not a good idea to put horned and not horned animals together for this reason. Other than for breeding, males and females should be kept separate anyway, so hopefully when you remove the boys, they will get along fine together again. Any advice? I really hope you mean WETHER — a castrated male — and not an intact buck. Someone has to be in charge, and your healthy goat recognized weakness in the one that has been sick, which is why he has taken charge. I generally put them together after about three or four days. Early in pregnancy, head butting won’t be a problem for the pregnancy. We recently got two bucks that have been together since birth. He may be on top or near the bottom. We have two adult females. But the kids will also have to learn that they can only nurse off their own mom, so they will get butted away a few times. Thank you. Both my goats have horns. When given a choice four out five goats will attack a child before attacking either another goat or an adult. They have two pastures, two feeders , two grain feeders and two separate water buckets. When you breed a large buck to a small doe, there is a very high risk of the kid being too large for the doe to successfully give birth. I wouldn’t say anything is impossible, but in every case when someone had a problem like this with an adult goat, they had been playing with the goat inappropriately as a kid because they thought it was cute. When goats attack…each other! They’ve all been back together for about a month now. Recently we put the two with doe’s to cover, but as I dont want the males always with the females i wanted to put the two bucks back together, but they butting heads badly. The best of friends however the little goat was pregnant when i got her and has just given birth. Separating your boys will (1) make them very unhappy when they are apart because they are herd animals and need a friend, and (2) cause even worse head butting when you put them back together as they have to establish dominance all over again. Please try again. Three weeks ago, I added a 6 year old Nigerian/Pygmy cross doe. When a doe is in heat, she can have a discharge that is clear or white. The harsh mountainous nature of southern Morocco makes it hard to herd other livestock. Be suspicious of all farm animals. It could be anywhere from $250 to $1000 and that is NOT a decision you want to have to make with a doe screaming in labor. She tongue flaps, blubbers, tries to mount our weather and is acting just like a male in rut. Usually they work things out within an hour or so, but some can be more bossy than others. Any reason why? They chase the other goat away from food treats weeds grass etc. Usually, in spite of the severity of the head banging, no one gets hurt. Most goats have a different relationship with humans than they do with the other goats in the herd. All contents © 2020 The Slate Group LLC. If it’s cold and raining, and they won’t let him in, you might need to come up with a temporary alternative. I have just introduced a 4 mo th old Boer to a year and a half old Boer which ive had for 7 months. If they are familiar with each other, you might see a little head butting in the beginning, but they should settle down fairly quickly. I surly do t want him to get nasty as he gets older because they are meant to him now. They need to be kept separate from the beginning or the bucks will get the does pregnant MUCH earlier than they should be bred. I can not attack goats and several factions, how do I set my people to combat? If they normally get along fine, it should be okay for him to be with her. Usually goats butt heads a lot when they are new to each other, then it calms down as the pecking order has been established. And you'll never see this message again. Especially the baby. The reason he only picks on the previously dominant one is because he has a dominant personality. It’s when they stay and keep butting heads that someone can get hurt. Kids that age probably won’t hurt her, but I wouldn’t guarantee it. Looking forward to your newsletter. We have 4 does. They all have horns. Veterinarians have taken tissue samples to check for illnesses, but they probably won’t reveal anything useful. Like Slate and the Explainer on Facebook. If you just want pets, wethers are best. Or just share a fence line… I want them to breed when he is big enough, I don’t want them to hurt him or hate him. Most attacks on small livestock and pets are by coyotes or free-ranging dogs, rather than bobcats. Because my black one chased him around. This sort of dominance display is common among bison, which pose over younger rivals they have killed to impress the rest of the herd, but is virtually unheard of in mountain goats. Goats can transmit several diseases to humans, including: Leptospirosis — This disease is widely distributed in domestic and wild animals. Now the mother is hitting the daughters baby kid. If that happens, they will bleed, but they’re usually fine. We had two weathers for a while now, about 1 year old. We are keeping a check on her daily. Unfortunately, no, there’s not much you can do. Should I just ignore it? The rest of the butting of kids is about teaching behaviour . I’ve heard of rams killing each other, but I’ve never heard of one breaking off a horn. Other than taking her to the vet for an official diagnosis, the main thing you need to do is keep her somewhere that she feels safe and doesn’t have much space to run around. Bob lives with my horse. Just like humans, sheep like to maintain a distance, or safe zone, between themselves and others. The kids don’t know that they are only supposed to nurse from their own mom, and if they try to nurse from another mom, she will butt them, bite them, etc. Jun 20, 2017 @ 2:44pm right click hold, select attack unprovoked. Putting a door on the shed and closing them up at night is one idea, but you don’t know how much they’ll fight once they’re stuck inside together. I rescued him as a baby and never cut his horns. we have a shelter that can be closed up at night time to be away from predators and the elements of the cold but do i let the goats out throughout the days as it gets ariny ,snowy and windy here in canada where i am at. It’s just what they do, but that shouldn’t last for long. You don’t want the other doe to meet the kid inside where she could slam him against a wall. Thank you for your comments I have now separated the Buck from the Does . She would be standing for him to mount her. If it’s inside and they could slam it against a wall, that could be bad while it is still so small. Is this normal? It takes literally seconds for a buck to breed a doe. Still, they can obviously do a lot of damage. We got two goats 3 years ago and one of them came pregnant. Sheep and goats are a better match than 2 breeds of goats especially if some are seasonal and others non seasonal breeders. they all have horns. Maybe with my does that were fine, I just had good timing and saw the only aggression, whereas the one that went into pre-term labor was being beaten constantly when I wasn’t around? Getting another goat won’t stop the head butting because then they will still have to figure out who’s boss with the new goat. I should say that the smaller goat is also very friendly and will sit in my lap for cuddles so he is not all bad! Goats that are attacked by dogs often have to be euthanized. 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